build penny a new system

 

hey guys,

 

i've got about a grand to spend. i can reuse the following out of my old system: dvd drives, screen, keyboard/mouse etc, box and 600W PSU.

 

stuff i need:

hard drive - its stuffed

mobo

cpu

ram

vidcard

operating system - I need the OS but don't include in overall price. I'll source it afterwards from a local shop around here.

 

go nuts

 

pennywise

Edited March 28, 201015 yr by Rarmy

That's plenty to get some good stuff.

 

I spent $1500 last July and got an i7920

 

I got an X58 Gigabyte mobo

 

A Power Colour 4890

 

6 Gig DDR3 Gskill RAM

 

1TB HDD - I forget the make though.

 

A 750 Watt PSU - swap that for an operating system - make sure you get an OEM copy. I just bought Windows 7 Ultimate for $225.

 

 

 

That above list you can get for under $1000 now as all the prices would have dropped.

 

 

http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

 

 

 

4G Kit DDR3 2000 G.Skill Ripjaws / Trident $170 / $180

 

G-B EX58-UD3R / G-B EX58-UD5 $238 / $328

 

1GB 5770 MSI /Powercolor /HIS /Gigabyte /ASUS $172/$179/$183/$185/$195

 

Core i7-920 / i7-930 $352 / $349

 

 

Western Digital “AV” SATA 320G / 1TB 78 / 132

 

*OEM 64 bit MS Win 7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 112 / 155 / 211

 

 

 

 

That's an idea of prices from MSY.com.au

Edited March 28, 201015 yr by Snazzy

Im on the case penny, just a few questions... your going to blow your k budget if you go i7.. obviously you'd wanna go i7 / i5 .... but would you go a AMD system over Intel for price.... ?

 

cheapest i7 920 / mb / ram comes to 806 .... and thats just those bits.. so.. please advise and ill come back to you with options.

$1000 is a rough base figure. I can extend over that if need be. Basically I'm after a system thats going to last me for another couple years before an upgrade like my previous one has.

 

I'm no fanboy of brands etc so build it as if you were building it for yourself.

 

Forget the operating system for now and just go for parts.

I'm no fanboy of brands etc so build it as if you were building it for yourself.

 

Mate if you wanna go for longtivity.. these are the brands/parts i'd be hooking up

 

Option 1

 

MOBO GB EX58-UD3R (RAID Capable) @ 238

CPU Intel i7 920 @ 352 / i7-930 @ 349

RAM 6gb DDR3 @ 1600 Gskill NQ @ 219

 

TOTAL 806.00

 

option 2

 

MOBO GB 790FXTA-UD5 @ 238

CPU AMD AM3x4 965 @ 214

RAM 4G Kit DDR3 1600 G.Skill @ 145

 

TOTAL 597.00

 

Video Options

 

Nvidia--

ASUS 896mb GTX260 @ 225

GB 1GB GTX285 @ 440

 

Ati--

GB 1GB 5770 @ 185

GB 1GB 5850 @ 379

 

 

HDD options

 

WD SII 808GB @ 77

SSD 64GB (OS) @ 189 ---- Unreal performance mate !

 

Operating Systems

 

VISTA ULT 32/64 @ 99

Win 7 Pre 32/64 @ 155

 

 

These are my options man... a little more cash in the kitty and you'd be apples.. let me know what your thoughts are.. if you want less more.. i can adjust accordingly !

Edited March 28, 201015 yr by Ericazuoq

I'm liking option 1 with the 5850 ATI vid card, WD 808GB HD and Windows 7.

 

where did you source your prices?

mate that was MSY.com.au.. "theres a store near you" have you got someone to assemble it or are you capable of that urself ? http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

 

Note i have given the Brand names version of everything.. you could save money by going down in brand name but.... as i said... you get what you pay for imo

Edited March 28, 201015 yr by Ericazuoq

i can get it together no dramas.

Definitely go for an i7, that's my advice anyway. I don't see having to replace mine for quite awhile.

 

I'll upgrade my graphics card and do some overclocking first.

First off, is your PSU quite up to date? The amperage on the 12v rails decent? Or is it a shaw

 

Also, when you say you want the PC to last a while, is that primarily gaming with some office stuff, web surfing and xyz on the side, or do you have CPU intensive tasks with gaming as a secondary concern?

 

If the gaming is of primary concern, I would recommend the AMD + highest GPU possible route, otherwise the i7 route is the way to go. Also I wouldn't recommend waiting for Nvidia's GTX400 series, because apparently they run really hot and loud, and only just pip the 5870 in performance. Really not worth it (sorry fermi).

 

For gaming, AMD 965 + 5850 (or 5870 if your budget is quite flexible). For great performance on the OS & main programs, I'd too recommend a Falcon II SSD drive then a storage drive (say 500GB to 1000GB).

 

From MSY (because that's where people are quoting from, even tho they're usually out of stock on at least 1 item I want when I go there)

 

MOBO GB 790FXTA-UD5 @ 238

CPU AMD AM3x4 965 @ 214

RAM 4G Kit DDR3 1600 G.Skill @ 145

GB 1GB 5850 @ 379

HDD1 Falcon II SSD @ 232

HDD2 WD 808GB @ 77

 

Totals: $1285

(removing the SSD brings you right to $1000).

 

The i7 is for ePeen value unless you do CPU heavy stuff. If you must go intel for gaming, the i5 is a much better choice.

the system will be for gaming and office tasks.

 

decisions decisions decisions.

You put gaming in there first, therefore the only* decision is the AMD system with a 955 or 965 (don't forget to add in a third party heatsink) and the highest GPU that you can afford at this point in time

*The AMD stuff can be substituted to i5 stuff if you prefer the intel route, although the i5 will be slightly more expensive afaik.

gee theres 3 new pc threads on the go , psyrus is in heaven

dont waste your money on the gtx 285 get the 275, tests showed it ran neck and neck with the 285 in some most games. Its what I run. Lag free ultra high graphics on crysis is sweet

 

Only get for the 285 if you plan on running resolution 2560x1600 as thats where it excelled

Re: build penny a new system

 

hey guys,

 

i've got about a grand to spend. i can reuse the following out of my old system: dvd drives, screen, keyboard/mouse etc, box and 600W PSU.

 

stuff i need:

hard drive - its stuffed

mobo

cpu

ram

vidcard

operating system - I need the OS but don't include in overall price. I'll source it afterwards from a local shop around here.

 

go nuts

 

pennywise

 

I just spent $1100 on a new system

 

ASUS MA79XTD EVO

AMD Phenom Quad Core 965 3.4 ghz

8 GGD DDR133 RAM

500GB HDD

Antec 902 Case

Windows 7 Professional - 64 bit

 

Carried over my ATI 5770, DVD burner & PSU

 

You could probably get it for roughly $1k now and you don't need any more than 4gb RAM as I've never seen anything use more than 3 1/2 GB.

Edited March 28, 201015 yr by lrwiujuriya

64 bit or 32 bit os? 32 will only use 3.5Gb max regardless of how much you have.

64 bit or 32 bit os? 32 will only use 3.5Gb max regardless of how much you have.

 

64 bit sorry, I thought that would have been obvious with the specs above.

Sorry snow, you ninja'd me, the question was for Shoty (o:

those looking at a new system but not in a huge hurry to get there may find this interesting...

 

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/PAX-AMD-Phenom-II-X6,news-33077.html

 

For starters, the Phenom II X6 is right over the horizon. While AMD wouldn't officially comment on some of the CPU's specifics, they did say that most of the rumors are (generally) true. This means that rumblings like the series name (1000T), and the specific model numbers (1075T, 1055T, 1035T), shouldn't change when the processors are officially revealed next month.

 

AMD did confirm that its six-core processors will be under $300, including a Black Edition variant, which puts them at the same price point as Intel's Core i7 860, 920 and 930 and well below the $1000 asking price of Intel's Core i7 980X Extreme. Without getting too specific, AMD talked about several features present in the Phenom II X6 CPUs that line up well with features found in the competition.

Don't fall into the trap stay Intel ..... AMD is for people like psyrus hehehe

Don't fall into the trap stay Intel ..... AMD is for people like psyrus hehehe

 

Not quite.

 

http://www.bigdgaming.net/showpost.php?p=200874&postcount=78

 

I know you said that in jest but I'll just summarize the current AMD vs Intel situation.

 

- i5 (750 and above) & Phenom X4 range are virtually identical, except that the i5 on a $/Ghz basis (non overclocking) represents worse value when looking at the CPU+Motherboard combination when compared to the AMD equivalent.

 

Prices

Phenom Quad 3.2Ghz vs i5 Quad 750 3.2Ghz

 

- When you start to overclock, that is when the lines get blurry. I haven't tried either but forums off google suggest that the P955 should make 3.6-3.8ghz quite easily with a lot of people claiming stable 4ghz on air cooling. i5s seem to hit 3.4-3.8ghz, and require more than air cooling to break the 3.8ghz barrier.

 

- As for the socket 1366 i7 platform, that is for 'enthusiasts' (aka people with too much money to spend) or people who require the feature set provided by the more expensive platform. The boards support native dual 16x PCIE lanes, triple channel memory, turbo boost (although some i5s have this), better overclocking potential, and other such features. More can be seen in this article:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-870.html

 

So in summary:

- i5/i7 for Intel fanboiz

- i7 for enthusiasts & CPU intensive tasks

- AMD X4 for everyone else

Don't fall into the trap stay Intel ..... AMD is for people like psyrus hehehe

 

Righttttt..........

 

 

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I must admit Psyrus, I'm in agreement there. Most read the reviews which show the i5/7 better in oc'ing (using 'exotic cooling') so assume thats teh one to go for, buy it, whack it in their system and summarily forget all about oc'ing and never contemplate such for the life of said system. Have mates that go all Intel/nVidia solely because they have the best high end components (then dont buy said high end components but still pay more than the equivilant AMD/ATI setup)

For gaming, I would definitely go for one of the phenom II x4 processors, they perform similar to intel's high end processors but cost alot less. Intel's pricing for their low to mid range cpu's are too high, and there's always a better AMD alternative ( e.g. intel's dual core i3 530 is $200 and AMD's athlon II quad core is only $160). You'll also get more future proofing because the phenom ii x6 processors will be released in a few months (the top end x6 will be under $400 US) giving you an option to upgrade, which you won't get with intel because they like to keep their prices sky high and I doubt there will be any 6 core cpu's for their 1156 motherboards.

 

Spend the money you saved from the cpu on a 5870 instead of a 5850, you'll notice significantly higher performance increases when playing games than if you bought a 5850 and an i7 930.

amd have always had the better upgrade path, with the new intel cpu coming i think they have said that can plug straight into the current moos. the amd one tho iirc (dont think its this current 6 core coming out but the next gen chip) will require a new mobo.