http://www.empowher.com/news/herarticle/2009/10/19/pregnancy-rate-astounding-chicago-high-school

 

yeah...good ol'USofA seem to have forgotten even the basics of basics.

It's not surprising. The inequity for African Americans, Hispanics (and the

thousand other ethnicities that populate American inner-cities) is an ongoing

issue. Years of under-investment, under-development. People are not given

the correct education about their own reproductive systems.

 

Edit: (Enforced Censorship by local Christian lobby)

 

I read an article in New Scientist magazine a little while ago which

demonstrated a sociological concurrence between teenage pregnancies and

the harshness of a particular (social) environment. It is something that is

noticeable in many other species as well. When resources are limited,

competition is greater and it behooves a fertile female to have a child as

soon as she possibly can because she may not be able to later and she has

to attempt to capitalise on what resources may be available at the time.

 

This is not, obviously, something that people necessarily consciously

participate in - it's a part of the way human beings are "wired" such that

the survival of the our own species is paramount and in tough times, it

makes evolutionary sense to have children as soon as possible, when a

mother is most fertile and resilient and the resources to nurture a child are

subject to greater competition.

Edited October 26, 200915 yr by mandatory05

I think it is funny how you guys love to point at the yank's but the problem is just as bad in Australia as well as the rest of the free world.

 

I am not sure how christian beliefs cause teen pregnancy as we believe in no sex until marriage and last time I checked you have to have sex to get a woman pregnant. So I think Sandy you are just looking to cause a stir

I think it is funny how you guys love to point at the yank's but the problem is just as bad in Australia as well as the rest of the free world.

 

 

Got evidence, another article perhaps to back that up?

http://www.mydr.com.au/kids-teens-health/teen-pregnancy-telling-it-like-it-is

 

just for you Tiny

Thanks, now read this http://www.education.vic.gov.au/healthwellbeing/childyouth/catalogue/adolescent/teenpregnancy-ind1.htm

 

In the write up you linked it said we were 6th, from a government site we are 11th - difference much. TBH I don't see how we are just as bad as the US.

 

Edit - Your article says last edited or reviewed in 2003 whereas the government one is 2008. So perhaps we were like the US and now that we are educating, we are moving away from them.

Edited October 26, 200915 yr by big_ears2501

I think it is funny how you guys love to point at the yank's but the problem is just as bad in Australia as well as the rest of the free world.

 

I am not sure how christian beliefs cause teen pregnancy as we believe in no sex until marriage and last time I checked you have to have sex to get a woman pregnant. So I think Sandy you are just looking to cause a stir

 

Not at all. I am not having a go at Americans. I didn't say Christian beliefs are causing teen pregnancy. I think that the problem with that is that a lot of people place all their faith in the bible and this becomes a surrogate education when the actual education system is not so good. That's fine and many of the Biblical principles are fine as well but they don't cover modern medical and scientific knowledge too well - ethics and morals - great, actual human behaviours and so on - not so good. I am not a Christian. My partner is. I haven't some here to start a stir. I think I will exit this thread stage left.

Edited October 26, 200915 yr by mandatory05

quick lets make another thread thats bound to make people pissed off!!

This year, three girls, aged between 14 and 16 got pregant at my school. All the sex edu talks and vidoes we go thru in Yr7-10 aren't enough, the morning afer pill is regularly advertised in your school newsletter... seriously... there is a problem with teenage sex in relation to not using forms of birth control and protection from STDs.

if people took a little more responsibility for their actions the world would be a emptier place.. ive always had a moto.... no kids till i can afford Toll lol !!!

I think there are a select few that decide to get pregnant so that they can access the baby bonus with the short sighted view that a few thousand bucks will make up for decades of being a parent!

Rather a sad predicament given that everything becomes harder with a kid and if one is struggling already that last thing you need is a child to care for as well.

However that New scientist theory is certainly interesting a makes sene when you think about it!

 

Oh and Sandy raises a good point about education and the bible. A recent example I can think of is where a fundamentalist parent has refused medical care for their child and instead waited for God to heal him/her. The kid died and the ignorant parent was arrested.

 

And of course there was the example of John Travoltas kid who died supposedly because Scientology dislikes proper medical care and pharmacology.

 

I've always felt balance is everything i'll be as contentious to say that I also believe science and faith compliment are not mutually exclusive. As a result I cringe whenever I see extreme examples of either side eg the fundamentalist example above versus Richard Dawkins or something.... *shudder*

I blame advertising &, media and how much sex is portrayed everywhere from music, magazines, tv, internets and movies. Even though we have choices of what we see and take in there are always people, teenagers and even kids who are more easier to reach and convince. There is no doubt sex has now been part of mainstream for a while now and has become a normal thing of society, I believe these instants are related to the subconcious factor behind teenage pregnancy but also looks like its a major factor

Totally agree smoovdogg.

Exhibit A:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/slideshow_ajax.aspx?sectionid=9016&sectionname=slideshowajax&subsectionid=156381&subsectionname=cyrus

Totally agree smoovdogg.

Exhibit A:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/slideshow_ajax.aspx?sectionid=9016&sectionname=slideshowajax&subsectionid=156381&subsectionname=cyrus

 

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/920232/miley-cyruss-sister-in-trashy-outfit-storm

Oh and Sandy raises a good point about education and the bible. A recent example I can think of is where a fundamentalist parent has refused medical care for their child and instead waited for God to heal him/her. The kid died and the ignorant parent was arrested.

The way i look at it, God helps those who help themselves. He obviously gave those doctors the knowledge to be able to diagnose and treat an illness, so why not use it?

 

Kinda like that old joke. Rain starts falling and the river starts to rise. bloke climbs up onto his roof and starts praying. a boat comes along and the ppl in it say "hey mate, hop in the water is still rising". he replies "no thanks, God will save me" (repeat that two more times and once more for a kayak). Eventually the bloke drowns, he gets to heaven and says to God "how come you didn't save me?". God replies "what do you mean? I sent you three boats and a kayak?!?"

I heard that there was an Australian stat that 1 out 3 teenagers from a age range I can't remember. Have had an abortion. It was shocking what ever it was.

"only in America" , i got into trouble for saying that at the PR forums ( only because kids over here don't get burnt for video games )

I heard that there was an Australian stat that 1 out 3 teenagers from a age range I can't remember. Have had an abortion. It was shocking what ever it was.

 

I call shenanigans

I heard that there was an Australian stat that 1 out 3 teenagers from a age range I can't remember. Have had an abortion. It was shocking what ever it was.

 

sauce or it never happened :shifty:

besides the obvious fact that the thread title (and several of the posts) are a little inflammatory in so far as it lays the blame of the problem at the feet of teenage women without taking into consideration that the males are 50% responsible for the situation.....

 

I wanna know why Gunner is taking such a keen interest in Women's health websites?

besides the obvious fact that the thread title (and several of the posts) are a little inflammatory in so far as it lays the blame of the problem at the feet of teenage women without taking into consideration that the males are 50% responsible for the situation.....

 

WHAAT? LIES!

 

 

 

 

 

 

good point though!

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Edited September 9, 20204 yr by AllYourBase11

I blame advertising &, media and how much sex is portrayed everywhere from music, magazines, tv, internets and movies.

 

The latest issue of Cleo Magazine (no i do not buy it) had 4 books devoted to sex, included positions and best ways to have an orgasm. And then there was one book called "the big book of penis's" or something along those lines.

 

This is quite shocking considering a lot of cleo's readers are in there teens and some even younger

The latest issue of Cleo Magazine (no i do not buy it)

 

Sure you don't buy it but doesn't change the fact that its your name on the subscription. :db:

 

I had two teen pernancy's in my senior grade at school. When I finished school there was only 60 seniors so that says a fair bit. BTW both couples keep the babies and have made wonderful parents.

Well Cleo has been reprinting the same bullfrog for over 20yrs - i am in my 30s and the stuff they have in there now is the same as when i was 16.

 

As the article said a lot of the reasons behind young girls having babies is that family that they come from. If you are the oldest of 5 kids to 4 different fathers and you have spent most of your time being a second parent to those kids then you see it as normal. Sometimes 3rd or 4th generation.

 

Also these young children having children also know that a baby loves you - they depend on you - they dont let you down - which is something that a lot of them want.

 

A lot of these young ones stay together after having babies young - there are 4 from my yr 10 class that are still together.

 

I still cant figure out why people blah on about young mothers - sure there are a few of them but there are not hoardes of them everywhere- some of these girls have more skills with babies than a lot of the older mums.

 

Or at least they dont pop out a baby every year or so that they cannt afford to actually have but get gov payments for - a lot of them still want to get jobs, finish school ect - you should see the mums at my boys schools - baby after baby - no husband or partner - they just dont want to work.

 

So i think people should give these young girls a break - they are no better or worse than anyone else.

Edited October 27, 200915 yr by IwasChosen.1