Whattup,

 

I'm in the market for a new knife at the moment, currently own a Muela Survival knife and I'm looking for something similar though military and the blade just has to be black.

 

I've got my eye on the cheap but proven Glock 81 and the SOG Seal team elite. Jst wondering on anyone else's opinion that, like me, goes camping often and needs a good blade to chop down small trees, cut pretty much anything and be under $125.

 

Hopefully some of you do go out right? Or PR for life?

Go to a firearm retailer, they'll have everything you need, from survival to boar knives.

If you just need it to cut stuff then you may as well just get a machete.

Those fancy pancy KA-bar, Bowie and Kukkri military type knives are darn expensive and probably hold no relevance to the purpose you intend to use them for.

Trench Knife anyone?

 

http://pagebydave.net/knife/images/210704.jpg

^one bad mumma jamma.

I would recommend Svord. They are a kiwi company and they make really nice high carbon swedish steel knives. Most of their knives are convex ground, razor sharp from the box and will take a serious beating in the bush.

 

My pick of them in the bush knife category would either be the Von Tempsky bowie (11")

http://svord.com/images/knives/CK-VTB-900x.jpg

Or the Kiwi Dragon which is 7 inch.

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x470/justintassie/SANY0033.jpg

http://svord.com/images/knives/CK-KD-900x.jpg

 

Both of them have a monster spine thickness so they make good choppers.

 

Kabars aren't bad either. I don't really like them as they're flat ground, you look like a wally carrying one and they don't have much heft to them. They do take a decent beating however. Can smash them through wood with a baton without too much worry - just take care not to damage the tip of the blade.

 

So yeah. Kiwi-Dragon or V.Tempsky bowie - I think they are about 200AUD each. You'll only need to buy one once though - seldom regret buying quality gear.

 

Edit: I also forge knives from truck leaf springs if you're after something specific.

 

FS Commando daggers have a black blade?

http://stephiblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/fairbairn-sykes-commando-knife.jpg

Edited August 7, 201115 yr by OrdeaL

Go to a firearm retailer, they'll have everything you need, from survival to boar knives.

If you just need it to cut stuff then you may as well just get a machete.

Those fancy pancy KA-bar, Bowie and Kukkri military type knives are darn expensive and probably hold no relevance to the purpose you intend to use them for.

 

 

From what I've read, a knife will do a better job than a machete because the steal is stronger and its obviously more compact.

Price wise I'm looking fir under $125 so there's many, it's just a matter if which one (I'm looking online, retailers never have anything good and if they do it's $200+).

I've got a SOG rescue knife, use it in dirty, salty conditions n it continues to serve its purpose a few years on, its small, folds away, cuts and tears. For cutting thick nylon rope quickly i use a Victory knife made by our New Zealand brothers, n its the best I've found for the job. a can of matt black spray paint if you want to stop it shining. You can get a spray can of "Soft Seal" to protect the blade or coat it in wax.

Edit not sure about knives for chopping though bush/small trees while your on the move

So yeah. Kiwi-Dragon or V.Tempsky bowie - I think they are about 200AUD each. You'll only need to buy one once though - seldom regret buying quality gear.

 

I see your point though too big and too expensive, plus not my style of blade, I was also looking at the cold steel recon tan to but that is hard to get through customs in Australia.

I see your point though too big and too expensive, plus not my style of blade, I was also looking at the cold steel recon tan to but that is hard to get through customs in Australia.

 

Big scary knives are good at chopping man. Won't get a decent chop from spec-ops knives.

 

Here is a scary german with the V.Tempsky bowie. Smashes up some pallets pretty good and then cuts a sheet of paper like its nothing.

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Edit:

and needs a good blade to chop down small trees, cut pretty much anything and be under $125.

Not sure about you but I generally don't use a knife to cut down small trees. Takes too much energy. I will either use a folding saw, machete or hatchet.

Edited August 7, 201115 yr by OrdeaL

Get one of these. Just look at all the uses. You can use it the Chop and dig.

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqMOKkUE1stlLZTrBNesNt8Z,w~~_3.JPG

 

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Product Introduction:

 

Combine 18 functions which makes a real miracle.

Combine the functions of digging, sawing, chopping, cutting, picking, prying, hammering and measuring perfectly.

More functions, less weight. Save your strength and time which reflects humanity.

Fine materials and good craft, further more, 268 process procedures and 48 inspections, make a perfect quality.

This product is widely used for single soldier, auto equipment, driving and camping.

Wenchuan earthquake in China in 2008,Widely used by rescue army.

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-Tools-WJQ-308-II-Bag-/250786755234?pt=AU_Sport_Camping_Hiking_Tools&hash=item3a640e32a2#ht_5111wt_905

Saw a guy do the same with a kizlyar Phoenix which is a military blade. To me, how much energy I use doesn't matter, and I can't afford anything but a knife

Get one of these. Just look at all the uses. You can use it the Chop and dig.

 

It's made in China = no.

It's made in China = no.

 

Isnt everything now days? :sweat:

 

Also, take a look at your local Military drop shops, they are probably your best bet knife wise, as they are usually more-able (or willing) to get the product in. Otherwise, take a look in BCF (I kid you not) or Anaconda... they actually have pretty decent stuff, I recently purchased two blades from King of Knives (folding single blades) as they are being blocked by customs.

 

I own a straight blade which I purchased from Anaconda about 3 years ago now, it has seen its fair amount of use and is yet to give me any trouble. As long as the stainless steel is '440' or above, you know its good as long as YOU look after it well.

It's made in China = no.

 

I get the idea you're fixated on some sort of Gucci spec ops gear but i'll humour you for a bit longer. Brit pattern Golok - worked well in Malaya etc.

Sort of half way between a machete/sidesword and a knife.

 

http://svord.com/images/knives/CK-G-900x.jpg

This place sells knifes and swords and has a online shop (i dont know how they will send it to you) but the shop is in Victoriahttp://www.globalgear.com.au

I've got a 4" TI-LITE WITH ZYTEL HANDLE, its great for small jobs when out bush

what is this outdoors you speak of? hahah

 

From what I've read, a knife will do a better job than a machete because the steal is stronger

 

only if the steel is stronger. or do you just mean that, because its smaller, a knife will have less flex than a longer knife/machete? no matter.

 

all steel has different properties. some better edge retention, others

stainless, others 'tougher' but with hardness comes brittle'ness.

 

http://www.benchmade.com/images/table_blade_steels.gif

 

 

theres no issues with getting blades into the country as long as they are

NOT assisted in any way, have a double edge (or could easily be formed into

a double edge), and if they're folding the blade can NOT swing open at all

under its own weight. if you know what i mean.

 

if your bound break it, personally id just go for a medium length machete. 40cm or so.

 

don't use a knife to cut down small trees. Takes too much energy

church!

 

I have a Benchmade nimravus http://www.ozgunsales.com/thumbs/small_dscf1149.jpg.

now its a fairly tough steel (154CM) but i personally wouldnt be using it like

some of these testers do. anything to do with hacking or chopping i would

look for something with 4-6mm spine....

 

 

these days ive just been getting el cheap'o chinese knives as they are derp -

cheap, and 80% of a full priced knife..... plus you CAN abuse them as you wish!

Edited August 8, 201115 yr by duanegordon78

Cheers for the offers but I have been saying I'm looking for knife like the Glock of seal team, not swords or machetes and asked for opinions and stuff SIMILAR :/

and asked for opinions and stuff SIMILAR :/

 

Tactical Gladius?

http://www.gagecustomknives.com/New%20Folder%20(6)/gage-galdius-blk-d2-650.jpg

Source

Tactical Gladius?

http://www.gagecustomknives.com/New%20Folder%20(6)/gage-galdius-blk-d2-650.jpg

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You're funny

 

Maybe, bacon sword?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/baconpreview.png/

Why do you need a blade like this exactly? If you want something for effectively chopping down small trees at all, I think many of the advise small fixed blades are a much better option. If you want it to be useful, don't go for a blade called "spec ops black" in some cases I may be wrong, but 90% if the time, you'll find them a total 'waste' of your time.

 

My No.1 Recommendation (and I kid you not) this:

https://www.gerbergear.com/Survival/Knives/Survival-Series-Ultimate-Serrated-Knife_31-000751

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LCgCl4C20do/TReoFikLZTI/AAAAAAAAAIM/UfWifiqm21Q/s1600/GerberBearGryllsSurvivalSeriesUltimateKnife1.jpg

 

Used my mates one on in the holidays on a hike, they are bloody fantastic. I can't even describe. You just have to hold one. Perfectly balanced. Amazing. There are now folding versions as well.

 

That or the Buck Iceman, I got to use one of those, great folding knives, the strength in their neck is awesome. However you can't get them anymore

oh well if it has to be 1337 then go for the Glock81, you could get 3-4 for the price of the SOG.....

 

sorry i thought we were talking about logically practicality.... :wacko:

 

 

gerber do not release info about their steel afaik, and are the same steel as most cheap chinese knives.

but could be more effective depending on how they heat treat it. that can turn a ****ty steel into the same

bracket as a better steel, but this varies.

 

youve lost value with gerber as your paying for a brand name...

 

that BG knife handle is ****ty plastic too..... seen them fall apart pretty easliy, mind you in a stress test

 

anyone want a super cheap but UNREAL quality for the price - try SANRENMU

 

got one of these http://sanrenmu.com/upload/products_image/GB-763.jpg and one of these http://sanrenmu.com/upload/products_image/GV2-909.jpg for about ~$15 bucks and are an extremely solid build for the price!!!

 

also got 3 of these for $15 each http://img.alibaba.com/wsphoto/v0/448872445/Buck-480-Wood-Handle-Camp-Hunting-Knife-Bayonet-Rocky-Mountain-Elk-Foundation-076-Nylon-Sheath-Rare.summ.jpg

 

chinese ripoffs, but will certainly do the job, very chunkey knife - 4mm steel, but not the same quality as the sanrenmu knives!

 

remember im talking quality vs price.... theres ALOT of overpriced **** out there!

 

if you want REAL knives try Chris Reeve Green Beret $320 or Pacific $325

Edited August 9, 201115 yr by duanegordon78

Yeah that Glock knife seems good for the price.

 

Gets ticks from me for the:

Glock polymer - that stuff is really tough.

Spring steel blade

Phosphate (parkerising) coating

 

Wouldn't bother with the one with the saw on it - in my experience saws on knives are bloody useless. The model you want is the "Feldmesser 78"

 

Still looks like a murder knife, but.

just think......... What would MacGyver use

gerber do not release info about their steel afaik, and are the same steel as most cheap chinese knives.

but could be more effective depending on how they heat treat it. that can turn a ****ty steel into the same

bracket as a better steel, but this varies.

 

youve lost value with gerber as your paying for a brand name...

 

that BG knife handle is ****ty plastic too..... seen them fall apart pretty easliy, mind you in a stress test

 

They already fixed that probblem with the knife, and now give a free life time warranty on it if breaks... There are places online to get it without the 'name' price-tag. How do you know they are the same steel quality if they don't release it?

 

If you're worried about the 'quality' just get the Gerber LMF-2, that's what the Bear Grylls design is based off anyway. Its been a proven design which was "used to cut through a 220 volt electrical line during a battle in Iraq". Made of 12C27 Stainless Steel, definitely not some chinese junk-yard 'Fury' blade.

haha, well performance i guess - wear and tear. good to see they fixed the handle i guess, but tis ugly for me....

yeah 12C27 can be really good. if heat treated well as can 8cr13mov(cheap chinee).

 

like benchmade, they have different 'classes' of knives, made up from different steels etc. gerber do use SOME great steel (s30v, ATS34(154cm) or AUS8),

but most of the line is ~8cr13mov and worse!

 

little bit pedantic, yes

 

theres heaps of steels out there, its just finding the right blade for the job!

Edited August 9, 201115 yr by duanegordon78

just think......... What would MacGyver use

 

he'd make his own damn knife out of a twig, some yarn and a bit of roo spit!

 

Victorianox pocket knife ftw! Then again, you could always pick up a SOG Multitool, has a fixed blade, serated blade (suppose to be dynamite for cutting off padlocks) plus the usual fixtures as well as a 'gear' plier. Not as loose and floppy as a Leatherman either.