I am new to playing PR.

I was playing tonight in Krazier's squad (squad 1), on the map Canada vs Russia (can't remember the name)

I thought i was following orders well and helping my team.

I did shoot 2 teamates (1 bigD player, and another Evil) and immediately typed "sorry" in team chat afterwards. BOTH times i was punished and then promptly kicked from server.

My question is, what is the point of saying sorry for an honest mistake? It doesnt help those who died understand it was an accident, and leaves a sour taste in my mouth after the punishment.

Some people don't care if it was an accident, they just instantly push the punish button. Don't be discouraged by a few bad eggs though, everyone does it when they first start out .

I guess people were getting sick of your whole squad being pathetic Nacho. Your squad ended with about 30 more deaths than kills and you capped not one flag and defended one flag once. Didnt you guys see the team chat?

 

Learn what teamwork is before complaining about others.

Yeh, tks's happen to everyone, and everyone accidently tk once in awhile.

 

The only thing you can do is comrose->sorry or if its special (assent TK) type an explanation and alot of sorry's !

 

don't worry, its all good!

Nacho - Tks happen to everyone. Some people will punish regardless of apologies, esp. if they were doing something important when they were shot

 

A few hints:

- Try to use your map often to identify friendlies/hostiles and increase situational awareness.

- report friendlies so your squaddies are less likely to open fire.

- ...and never rely on red/blue/green names to flash up above heads - they often won't.

Quick tip: To identify teammates, learn what their uniform looks like! Though learning what your teams weapons look and sound like can help, stolen kits only leave the original uniform intact to identify them by.

 

One other thing. If you use sound to identify an enemy, don't forget that you'll most likely need to zero in before you can fire accurately, so check your map to see if there's a blue/green dot near where you heard the shot come from.

Don't sweat it dude, people who punish for anything less than a blatant intentional TK are noobs that need to direct their noob rage at the enemy instead of a friendlies mistake .

 

ONLY ever punish if the person is an intentional tard. I've seen many o people kicked because of FF on land mines etc after ragers mash the punish button... Quite sad.

Edited May 1, 201014 yr by Sushiroru

ONLY ever punish if the person is an intentional tard. I've seen many o people kicked because of FF on land mines etc after ragers mash the punish button... Quite sad.

 

+1 bilion.

 

Dont worry dude. Some people just rush to the button. :stink:

You sound like you have the BigD mindset so dont sweat it. Youll get better at friend or foe in time. Everyone gets kicked from time to time from a bad run of tks.

 

:hi:

You sound like you have the BigD mindset so dont sweat it. Youll get better at friend or foe in time. Everyone gets kicked from time to time from a bad run of tks.

 

:hi:

 

Or for forgetting about the swear filter :whistle:

 

 

Dont worry dude, if you keep at it, you'll get there.

When I started, i was shooting friendlies left, right and centre. Admittedly, it was on american servers, but hey, learn from our mistakes!

 

And yamalia is the name of the map you were looking for, and its a real bugger to tell who's who.

I guess people were getting sick of your whole squad being pathetic Nacho. Your squad ended with about 30 more deaths than kills and you capped not one flag and defended one flag once. Didnt you guys see the team chat?

 

Learn what teamwork is before complaining about others.

 

2 apc's 2 inf sections attacking from the rear and front. We held charlie for more then enough time for u guys to cap mike, it went bad and our team didnt get it. Dont u dare take it out on me or my team members. we capped charlie back after loosing it countless times. Each person in my team tonight acted with great prowess and done there best to hold the postion. Nearly all them were new but still done a damn good job. We followed the commanders orders. did u? either way i dont really care what u think. blame me if u need. Well done the men under my command i was proud, Bad luck Nacho on ur TK's im sure if u were meaning to do it u would walk up to the person and point ur rifle at there head so u wouldnt miss

just so u know mate i think the kick is a auto response to deter people being asses. so dont feel like ur being singled out.

 

kraz

Don't sweat it dude, people who punish for anything less than a blatant intentional TK are noobs that need to direct their noob rage at the enemy instead of a friendlies mistake

I guess that makes me a noob. But I guess at the same time I'm not the one who teamkilled. Of course there are limits to what is punishable... even if the havok accidentally kills your whole squad because enemies were reported in the area... they can't tell if those dots are friendly while they're doing a high speed hydra/hellfire run. Nor can an A10 dropping a bomb or doing a GAU run. At the same time though, shooting a friendly logistics truck with a TOW missile at a range <200m is inexcusable, for the following reasons:

- Logistics trucks have no immediate threat, they will not fire on you.

- Logistics trucks look different depending on the faction, visual identification is relatively easy

- Logistics trucks are slow, and thus you have time to make up your mind.

- Using TOW missiles on non armour targets (non insurgency) is questionable but still ok (IMO)

 

That's the same case as being killed by a friendly sniper... they have to aim steady for several seconds to make the shot, there is no way that they can claim that they "didn't know"... learn to check your fire. It may be harsh but getting kicked while whoring up a sniper kit will generally make people think twice about checking if the target is friendly or not.

 

I teamkill just like anyone else, I don't claim to be perfect... but if I teamkill as an infantry soldier, on a stationary position, in a land vehicle (jeep, APC, Tank) or with grenade traps, I wouldn't feel all butthurt about getting punished for it, that is their prerogative because I made the mistake. 5 days ago I teamkilled 6 people at once because I thought I was being funny by putting a trip flare on the truck... turned out it was a grenade trap which exploded as we exited the vehicle . I deserved to be kicked but I wasn't because I had explained that it was my mistake (even before we died) and it was an honest mistake with no malicious intent.

 

At the end of the day, I only punish for two reasons:

- Intentional TKs

- Easily avoidable TKs

2 apc's 2 inf sections attacking from the rear and front. We held charlie for more then enough time for u guys to cap mike, it went bad and our team didnt get it.

So you relayed this to the team as it was happening so they could fall back to help you fortify, yes?

Edited May 1, 201014 yr by Husker

can't we all just get along

2 apc's 2 inf sections attacking from the rear and front. We held charlie for more then enough time for u guys to cap mike, it went bad and our team didnt get it. Dont u dare take it out on me or my team members. we capped charlie back after loosing it countless times. Each person in my team tonight acted with great prowess and done there best to hold the postion. Nearly all them were new but still done a damn good job.

kraz

 

Like I said deaf as a post.

lingus, give it a rest. I'm sure Kraz is able to take the constructive critism from your first post and use it in the next game. Harping on like this only creates hostility and is one of things that used to annoy me about another members posts. At least he is in forums to read it.

 

I'll admit that last night (and most nights) I was distracted listening out for kids and did not pay much attention to the team chat, but what useful info I did read was soon lost in the complaining about other squads and such.

 

Yes, team kills happen, just like the proverbial, and some people are to quick to punch the punish button (especially when it is there fault, need someone else to blame).

I was tk'd twice last night and forgave both times. One was due to the destruction of an enemy apc (worth more then me) and the other was a pure accident.

 

At the end of the day, just build a bridge, its only a game.

Edited May 1, 201014 yr by Warmoer

Lingus keep your personal epeenions about other community members to yourself. Appreciate you were frustrated - but do you think you've actually helped the situation by starting a flame war particually when the OP was from somebody new joining the forums with the intent of improving their playing style....

 

gg

ling ling, sign into msn. i got PR workies

Nacho, best thing to do when it comes to reducing your TK's imo is to keep your suspect target scoped in for a seconds and wait for a name to pop up, in most cases they are not a direct threat to you unless it's CCQ and in that case you can see very distinctly what kit/model they are, ultimately with time you will "recognise" them better but for now just take the few seconds to track your targets and then engage.

 

Sure in some cases the names don't even pop up and if that's the case and you do TK well collateral damage happens i guess. aslong as a "sorry" is posted up in TC you usually are good, but with the amount of newcomers from BF2 to PR they are still in the mindset of Vanilla so..

 

If its a Grenade Trap or Mine, aslong as you mark them accordingly you should be apples, even though a punish still happens from time to time just because the person who ran over it fails to check their map before they go frolicking around the map in a vehicle.

 

Welcome to PR to BTW. see ya in game some time.

I guess people were getting sick of your whole squad being pathetic Nacho. Your squad ended with about 30 more deaths than kills and you capped not one flag and defended one flag once. Didnt you guys see the team chat?

Now it's alright to punish other players because they don't play to your style? So your squad was there to help them defend lingus? Hmm. No.

 

As i had the privilege of flying over that flag once everyone else had pissed off (in trucks and apcs' - nothing like letting the enemy have time to set up a defence, huh?) and left that 1 squad to defend, i saw 2 apcs and probably 8 - 10 inf attacking the flag. 6 players, most of which looked like greens (though I didn't give it much thought at the time), didnt stand much of a chance against the enemy squads let alone apcs but they did do rather well to maintain control as long as they did (25 minutes I hung around for they moved around inside the cap instead of standing still which gave the team a pretty decent time frame to capture a flag, if the team could communicate). If the other 80% of the team couldn't cap 1 flag with only 60% of the enemy team there, I'm sorry but something is wrong there. Last night some of the guys on Russia really needed to (simply) pull their heads in. Because the team couldn't cap mike, it was all sq 1's fault on charlie. Get over your egos and just play the game instead of taking it out on everyone else...

 

Don't sweat it dude, people who punish for anything less than a blatant intentional TK are noobs that need to direct their noob rage at the enemy instead of a friendlies mistake .

 

ONLY ever punish if the person is an intentional tard. I've seen many o people kicked because of FF on land mines etc after ragers mash the punish button... Quite sad.

Basically what he said ^^^^^^^ Don't be inclined to start insta-punishing bud, the larger of the community will lose all respect for you if you do (unless it's something ridiculously stupid like psyrus example ).

Edited May 2, 201014 yr by rohan11221

well if i have an enemy kit i normaly forgive the player. a mine that is marked on the map i will forgive. but no marker for the mine means i will just press the punish button. if you are getting to many TK's off mines and nade traps just stop putting them down. other then that ... i may forgive a tank that shoots at me. but normally armor should of checked the map before firing (unless your wearing an enemy kit. lol)

 

TK always happens and people rage about it. sometimes they are pissed of aready and that just caused them to be even more pissed off...

Now it's alright to punish other players because they don't play to your style?

 

I didn't punish. Way to miss the whole point.

i don't punish unless it is called for i.e. as was said by others it was intentional or just plane stupid. Just say sorry for the TK and maybe explain what happened if required. But at the end of the day its up to the other perosn to decide weather or not to press that button. I know ive tked someone thye punished and then they appologized for the punish saying they pressed the wrong button so basicle mistakes happen.

I didn't punish. Way to miss the whole point.

 

 

I am new to playing PR.

I was playing tonight in Krazier's squad (squad 1), on the map Canada vs Russia (can't remember the name)

I thought i was following orders well and helping my team.

I did shoot 2 teamates (1 bigD player, and another Evil) and immediately typed "sorry" in team chat afterwards. BOTH times i was punished and then promptly kicked from server.

My question is, what is the point of saying sorry for an honest mistake? It doesnt help those who died understand it was an accident, and leaves a sour taste in my mouth after the punishment.

 

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I guess people were getting sick of your whole squad being pathetic Nacho.

 

His topic of being punished for accidental tk's, then your response of players getting sick of HIS squad being 'pathetic' would appear that you condone him being punished for making genuine mistakes while they're learning... Either it's related to the topic or it's not! If it's not, why post it here?

Lingus.... Some of your recent posts directed at a couple of the newer forum members are simply rude.

By all means reply to their observations and comments but keep the personal comments to yourself please.

I deserved to be kicked but I wasn't because I had explained that it was my mistake (even before we died) and it was an honest mistake with no malicious intent.

 

i was in that truck !! - we did end up having a good laff about it tho.

 

tk's will happen - they aren't intentional - but put yourself in their shoes before you punish.