Just had a round on Kashan. Had the enemy jet swoop in and kill our jet that just landed and take out the A10 that had just spawned.

 

So first off, if you have been chasing a jet and it lands, are you still allowed to kill it even tho it has stopped on the run way?

 

After asking who was in the jet and why they attacked the main Chugga came back saying that you are allowed to attack the main because it is "Cappable" because it can be capped at one stage in the game. However we had North Village and South Outpost. He claimed that because there was no red cross on the US main flag it makes it a cappable flag so you can attack it even tho AAS said you cannot.

 

So I just want to get these 2 things straight. Are jets allowed to kill jets that have just landed even if in main and does a base without a red cross mean it is cappable so it is attackable?

 

Cheers

Anaraith

It was me in the frog. I was chasing the F16 before it landed and I think I had every right to kill it as an A10 had done the exact same thing to our Mig beforehand.

 

The A10 kill was completely illegal but in the heat of the moment I killed it too.

Same thing on Seven gates as china its cappable at some stage but when we have fort and gaoli village are they allowed in our main?????

Any enemy controlled main flag that is not "in contention" that is it is unable to be capped at this current point in time is not to be attacked. Regardless of if it has a uncap marker on top of it.

 

If an enemy controlled main flag comes into contention and then when you get there it is no longer in contention any more then you must move away again.

 

If you neutralise an enemy main flag then IMO as an admin then the flag ceases to become the enemy controlled main base and you may stay there and hold it neutral even if you lose another rear flag.

 

 

As for chasing jets/helis into their mains. It is a very very very grey area. You are not to shoot into the enemy main so if it touches down I would say it is safe and you can't attack it, same goes for any other assets that are on the ground in the main. If it is still in the air and in the process of landing though it is fair game IMHO.

 

Head admins please feel free to amend or delete my statements.

 

Now someone lock this thread ASAP before it turns sour.

Edited June 29, 200915 yr by mrchickenfool

It was me in the frog. I was chasing the F16 before it landed and I think I had every right to kill it as an A10 had done the exact same thing to our Mig beforehand.

 

The A10 kill was completely illegal but in the heat of the moment I killed it too.

 

Yeah I am not so much blaming you, it woulda been hard not to hit that A10 when coming in I've just heard different things about if you are allowed to attack and kill or not so wanted to get it clarified

Pinkfloyd I know that you wanted to have revenge but when i shot down the MIG in the A10 earlier he had not landed yet he was still about 500 meters away from the runway.

I know I was in the wrong black but seeing as Jets landing/killing each other happens so infrequently I didn't know what the rules were about it. I was on the F16s tail before it landed and I only managed to get lock on after it touched down.

Yeah thats exactly what happend to me didnt get lock until he was about 100 meters from runway but he was already on fire so i just left him to crash and burn.

 

I didnt know if there was a rule for killing jets as they are landing but i guessed not and killed him anyway.

It was a fun round, for kashan anyways.

Yeah, awesome round. I killed 2 A10s and an F16 plus some armour.

 

Without killing the frog!

DO NOT SPAWN CAMP/ATTACK UNCAPPABLE FLAGS IN VEHICLES AT ANY TIME

 

http://www.bigdgaming.net/rules/index.html

 

 

Play nicely pls.. :hi:

I got that bahlye but the debate that came up is what is an uncap? To me its a flag that cannot currently be uncapped, weather that be because of the cross over it or because the previous flags havn't been capped but to others it is only flags that have the red cross.

 

So what one is classed as the uncap?

 

Cheers

A flag you can't actually ,at the time, cap?.

 

Therefore uncapable .:meeting:

How i look at it.. if there's a kill zone around an area YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO ATTACK IT!

Rules on some '42/DC servers was that you could attack a returning jet in an uncap or otherwise people can abuse the 'protection dome' for their own benefit. Different in that game as you could hover or fly slowly over the hangar for a quick repair.

 

Obviously different here due to what constitutes an uncap. But still..

I know I would be extremely angry if I was killed as I landed in my main. 20 minute spawn time for a jet and you get killed in the cheapest way. Not my idea of a good time.

But what if you were dogfighting for 20 minutes, you slightly damaged your enemy and he circled and managed to land leaving you without the kill. I would find that cheapening an experience too.

as this relates to kashan, you cant bomb or attack jets or any assets at their main until that flag is in contention (re: you're capping them out).

 

unless the rules change you CANT do it. just clear reply to the OP

 

i repeat. you CANT do it

If a jet can perform a landing without you killing him there is something wrong. They will be going extremely slowly just to land safely. You have a large area to kill them as they come in from the NW/SE corners of the map. Killing them inside their main when they're almost stationary is just low IMO, I would not hesitate to make that known in game either...

 

Dogfighting usually never goes for that long either

In my case he was going twice as fast as me and it was only as he was landing I caught up enough to get lock on him. I was in the frog after all...

Yeah unless you spotted him in the last 10 seconds of his landing I dunno how you didn't manage to kill...

A dogfight last for 1:30 maximum once the attacker is stuck on your ass.

Yeah unless you spotted him in the last 10 seconds of his landing I dunno how you didn't manage to kill...

A dogfight last for 1:30 maximum once the attacker is stuck on your ass.

 

?

 

I killed him. :wacko:

It was me in the frog. I was chasing the F16 before it landed and I think I had every right to kill it as an A10 had done the exact same thing to our Mig beforehand.

 

The A10 kill was completely illegal but in the heat of the moment I killed it too.

 

You think because someone does it to you the best thing is to do it back to them ?

You think because someone does it to you the best thing is to do it back to them ?

 

In your case, yes. :hi:

Well when i shot the MIG down he had not yet touched the runway so i guess my kill was legal?

so this doesn't start flaming. No-one i thinks it low that it happens sometimes. Its excusable if its unknown to you the rules, then you post up asking for clarity, that's a good thing.

 

As for the air to air spat...

 

Just take it from the server rules - DON'T (with a capital D), attack any assets jets or otherwise when they're IN (includes above) an uncap (whether it be a pure uncap, or a main flag that is not yet in contention)

 

That's the ruling on that one, as far as it goes. So if he's lining up on the runway landing...and you want revenge for when you were on the tarmac that 'one time', then as Yul Brenner says,

 

Just Don't.

 

I think the question has been pretty much nailed yes?

Edited June 29, 200915 yr by Hambang101