Posted June 23, 200915 yr I have noticed this a few times and I know others have had trouble with it too. Sometimes for an unknown reason squads are unable to select either the automatic rifleman or the medic limited kits for no apparent reason. This problem persists for the entire round and it seems to be limited to individual squads with some being fine and some suffering the bug. Anyone know what causes it or if there is an easy workaround? I really hope they release a quick hotfix for this as it is frustrating enough in public matches but it will really play havoc and even ruin any organised matches if certain squads are disadvantaged by not having access to such critical kits.
June 23, 200915 yr It's all over the PR forums as well, there's something wrong with it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
June 23, 200915 yr The only way I know of to fix this issue (we had it in ghost train at the very start of the map, couldn't spawn medics) is to abandon your squad and make a new one. The bad thing is that you better do it before everyone spawns in because as you know, you can't select a new kit while alive any more [you might be able to tell I'm not a huge fan of this new system :disgust: ] http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee94/psyrus_uraya/awards-1.png QFT: Your computer is smart man. It tells you not to play the second worst PR map [burning Sands] (first is Wanda Shan). QFT: if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough
June 23, 200915 yr being worked on yes the kit issue is a real pita atm...Ancientman is on the case and will let us know what can be done server side(if anything) asapos...
June 23, 200915 yr new bugs are inevitable, eh ? this isn't too serious... I experienced it last night "When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite." - Winston Churchill
June 23, 200915 yr its not like its going to ruin the game play... all you have to do is make a new squad and wait 2 minutes for the kit http://i.imgur.com/zoL1k.png
June 23, 200915 yr I take it this is a server bug? Cause I have yet to see the problem on a local server. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/Frenzal/ANZ.png
June 23, 200915 yr The only way I know of to fix this issue (we had it in ghost train at the very start of the map, couldn't spawn medics) is to abandon your squad and make a new one. The bad thing is that you better do it before everyone spawns in because as you know, you can't select a new kit while alive any more [you might be able to tell I'm not a huge fan of this new system :disgust: ] Yknow the alternative is people being wounded, loosing their kit after 30 seconds, and then getting another spawn kit upon revival.. http://i.imgur.com/wofKY.jpg Portfolio Site http://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/OperationCrownRibbon02.jpghttp://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/opagamaserv.jpg
June 23, 200915 yr The only way I know of to fix this issue (we had it in ghost train at the very start of the map, couldn't spawn medics) is to abandon your squad and make a new one. We tried that once and it didn't work. It was with the automatic rifleman kit though. Perhaps what we experienced was an entirely different problem. nedlands1 [WC] Specialist (Combat Engineer) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/US_Army_E-4_SPC.svg/50px-US_Army_E-4_SPC.svg.png [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
June 23, 200915 yr This bug is what I must have experienced a few times - it was damn annoying. Good to know we can at least create a new squad to resolve it. Where's the cheese? http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2315/ubd4327.png
June 23, 200915 yr Yeah I have experienced this issue 4 times in 4 rounds, absoloutly frustrating. It does ruin gameplay, it means no medic, very important for an inf squad. Its not as easy as just creating a new squad as it means you need to make sure everyone is spawned in or those that are left behind can't spawn at your rally. And if your not at a crate it also means you have to wait till you die before you get those kits. Quite a large and important bug that definitely requires a hotfix patch as soon as possible. Is it just me or does the PR team not do enough testing of patches with large amounts of people. They should be doing 4 or 5 large beta tests with as many players as possible (From the community) before releasing patches. I might be wrong but I only know of 1 stress test that occurred awhile before release. 3 or 4 of those would most likely have found this bug. Edited June 23, 200915 yr by Tactical_Kiwi http://www.clan-tea.com/sigs/flames/Poncho-Temp.png Orders starting with SOMEBODY usually wind up being completed by NOBODY.
June 23, 200915 yr Is it just me or does the PR team not do enough testing of patches with large amounts of people. They should be doing 4 or 5 large beta tests with as many players as possible (From the community) before releasing patches. I might be wrong but I only know of 1 stress test that occurred awhile before release. 3 or 4 of those would most likely have found this bug. I'm pretty sure this was a known bug on releasing it. Well Jerrif and I figured as much considering within a few minutes of play on the beta Jerrif's squad was experiencing it (no medic). I'd be very shocked if it came as a surprise to the devs http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee94/psyrus_uraya/awards-1.png QFT: Your computer is smart man. It tells you not to play the second worst PR map [burning Sands] (first is Wanda Shan). QFT: if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough
June 23, 200915 yr Poncho: We had more than 200 stress testers allocated for 0.85 stress testing and an 'open stress test' for 0.86 with similar numbers signed on. We only managed to fill the test server of 64 only once. It is infuriatingly disheartening when 90% of people you sign on only come once just to screw around, check out the new stuff, and never show their faces for real testing again. Its a crying shame but its the reality of what we have to deal with as a dev team. And yes, its high on the agenda obviously.. Edited June 23, 200915 yr by SneekyShadow http://i.imgur.com/wofKY.jpg Portfolio Site http://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/OperationCrownRibbon02.jpghttp://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/opagamaserv.jpg
June 23, 200915 yr Fully understood Chuc heard it was an issue with 0.85 and assumed same with 0.86, Should see if you can run a sep stress test on the GSA servers we'll find em next time http://matt.itsthemadhouse.com/na/sigs/na-sig-gruanch5.png http://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/bulletmagnet.bmp http://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/gren.bmp http://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/ocrs.bmp http://bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/opagamaserv.jpg
June 23, 200915 yr Yeah, he's got that right! Bet we could fill one test server for a few rounds http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww130/CptCarter_400/Cptcartersig.jpg http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/393/userbar758626.gif
June 23, 200915 yr The problem is blowing your quota on 3gb releases to stress test... most australians can't afford that luxury. http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee94/psyrus_uraya/awards-1.png QFT: Your computer is smart man. It tells you not to play the second worst PR map [burning Sands] (first is Wanda Shan). QFT: if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough
June 23, 200915 yr Oh, DAMN my 25gb/25gb plan! http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww130/CptCarter_400/Cptcartersig.jpg http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/393/userbar758626.gif
June 24, 200915 yr Yes I do understand the frustrations Chuc, I would be all in for testing whenever I can as would most people on these forums. I do not ever remember reading a post for any testing event other than the 1 that I attended. Now I don't troll forums too much, I spend most of my time on the TEA forums and reading/replying on BigD Forums that doesn't leave much time for surfing the Reality forums but I do read it sometimes. If you only post on the reality forums that you are looking for testers than you aren't going to find as many as you would like. If you posted on BigD and as many other PR community forums around the world I am sure you would easily fill 2 PR Servers with Testers. The problem isn't people don't want to attend these testing events its that they don't know about it. The testing event I turned up at the server was full and every player was on mumble (Yes in-game was down), that is dedication. Plenty more where that came from... http://www.clan-tea.com/sigs/flames/Poncho-Temp.png Orders starting with SOMEBODY usually wind up being completed by NOBODY.
June 24, 200915 yr I do not ever remember reading a post for any testing event ...... http://www.bigdgaming.net/showthread.php?t=7377 http://www.bigdgaming.net/showthread.php?t=6447 you gotta remember that it's not Ancientman's / Chuc's / Trip's responsibility with the DEV faction.... they have different roles, so if you want to get involved you need to read the realitymod forums.... http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/IINoddyII/aux1_zpsab5224fd.png
June 24, 200915 yr yeah. Had the issue, I thought it was cos one of my squadmates was retarded and didnt know how to request kits..."i dont believe you, what you cant request the kit? well how come XXXX has the autorifle?, what the hell you doin?..."...etc lol... All in all, its a minor bug. And yes annoying, but it doesnt seem like its going to be a major issue to fix... and as far as I know the devs arent getting paid. and given the popularity of the mod, im thinkin there is a fair bit of pressure coming from organising and delivering on the mod to a satisfied audience. i would bitch about this bug if it were a commissioned development team with a budget...but as it stands, i love youse... Edited June 24, 200915 yr by Hambang101 http://www.bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/spambot.bmp http://www.bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/whatthe.bmp The Bee Zed Zed
June 24, 200915 yr Chuc, Matrox is looking for video of the limited kit bug that kills you when you spawn. DI and N/A had a skirmish in Sunday night. Thanks, could you send me that video/br? Chuc ... attached is the zipped battlerecorder file from Sunday night sessions where we were died spawning with limited kits. Not the one I talked about but shows the same think happening ... couldn't figure out how to attach files in PM [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I don't procrastinate. I just like to do things later.
June 25, 200915 yr http://www.bigdgaming.net/showthread.php?t=7377 Yes... As I said I attended that.. All I am saying is, if there was more testing then we could avoid these bugs and get a perfect release but if the testing doesn't happen on a scale that will find these bugs, there is just going to be more on the next release. I know its not the Devs responsibility to post around looking for testers but if people don't know its happening than there won't be enough people to help find these bugs before release. What's done is done. On the issue of the bug itself.. It is a large bug, I have played 6 - 7 rounds in a row now with this bug and it makes a squad extreamly ineffective. If you can't have a medic in a squad you are screwed and the Auto Rifle also makes a huge difference to a squads effectiveness. You can't just brush it aside and says its minor it makes a HUGE aspect of gameplay non-existent. My 2c http://www.clan-tea.com/sigs/flames/Poncho-Temp.png Orders starting with SOMEBODY usually wind up being completed by NOBODY.
June 25, 200915 yr It is a large bug, I have played 6 - 7 rounds in a row now with this bug and it makes a squad extreamly ineffective. If you can't have a medic in a squad you are screwed and the Auto Rifle also makes a huge difference to a squads effectiveness. You can't just brush it aside and says its minor it makes a HUGE aspect of gameplay non-existent.My 2c better bail from the game for a while then if its that bad, till at least it gets fixed. the devs are aware of the issue and would be working on a fix. id be voting to lock this thread, seeing as i guess its served its purpose? unless chuck wants more ingame vids from people? http://www.bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/spambot.bmp http://www.bigdgaming.net/images/added/awards/whatthe.bmp The Bee Zed Zed
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