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For anyone who didn't catch it, a little while ago I did an interview with the German Forces community mod on my site, the PR League:

 

PRL: What armies are the German Forces going to be fighting against?

 

azn: MEC, Insurgents, Russians, PLA.

 

 

PRL: Tell me about the classes and weapons in the German Forces army.

 

azn: The new weapons are the G36, Mg3, Mg4, RGW-60, Panzerfaust 3, KM2000, MP7A1 and many more.

 

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Read the rest... and see some more screenshots at The Project Reality League

 

 

 

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They all look so sad and dopey :p

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Hey guys, lay off... not everyone has Chuc at their disposal!

 

I'm glad that the community factions are getting more polished, it'll be nice to have even more spice/variety in the mix :)

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QFT: if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough

Yeah Chuc RULZ.... ADF for the Best looking PR soldiers in the world :p

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Yeah I can't wait for some of these new factions to get into PR.

 

I still don't really understand why the DEVs were so insistent on putting the US army in since they are so damn similar to the USMC. Seriously is the Army M4 actually going to be any different to the marine M16?

 

Rant Warning.

 

In keeping with PR standards, the basic classes will be the same, but dealing with the G36 and its powerful set of optics has forced us into a unique position: It is unfair for every kit to have a scope and a red dot sight, but it is unrealistic to do otherwise. In the end, we decided to do the balancing through map design, I.e. having the Germans as the attackers trying to fight their way out of a difficult position.

WTF??? My faith in this faction just went down the toilet, big time. I'm all for asymmetry but that is just retarded. Sure the G36 should be a great gun but why not only give it to the guys that would normally have scoped weapons?

 

Why don't the USMC have javelin missile launchers, spectre gunships and MLRS trucks? It would be realistic.

 

Why because it would be freakin' retardedly OP.

 

Many of the factions have equipment they shouldn't (Eg. PLA with French Eryx) or don't have equipment they should in the name of balance and gameplay.

 

You can't just give one team better positions/assets and then say "oh look it's balanced now". That's not balance that is a sham and frankly a disappointment.

 

All that will happen is the "other" teams will just grab all the G36s off dead Germans and they they will have the best guns and the best positions/assets = FAIL.

 

I sincerely hope the PR DEVs in their wisdom step in and change it so that the team is actually balanced properly, not some sham balancing through map design BS.

 

End Rant.

 

Sorry I couldn't help it.

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i still steal U.S kits all the time when im mec

 

Amen to that! :D

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They need to clean up those camo's there is no pattern definition (Yes I know the irony in saying that a camo pattern which is meant to disrupt needs to be defined. though, it just looks like a blury blob of colour atm).

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Yeah I can't wait for some of these new factions to get into PR.

 

I still don't really understand why the DEVs were so insistent on putting the US army in since they are so damn similar to the USMC. Seriously is the Army M4 actually going to be any different to the marine M16?

 

Rant Warning.

 

 

WTF??? My faith in this faction just went down the toilet, big time. I'm all for asymmetry but that is just retarded. Sure the G36 should be a great gun but why not only give it to the guys that would normally have scoped weapons?

 

Many of the factions have equipment they shouldn't (Eg. PLA with French Eryx) or don't have equipment they should in the name of balance and gameplay.

 

You can't just give one team better positions/assets and then say "oh look it's balanced now". That's not balance that is a sham and frankly a disappointment.

 

All that will happen is the "other" teams will just grab all the G36s off dead Germans and they they will have the best guns and the best positions/assets = FAIL.

 

I sincerely hope the PR DEVs in their wisdom step in and change it so that the team is actually balanced properly, not some sham balancing through map design BS.

 

End Rant.

 

I too had a bit of a rant about the US army being added before more interesting factions were even given a look. And no, if the information circulating the forums is anything to go by, the new M4s have almost exactly the same code as the M16A4s, the only major difference being that the US army rifleman irons gets a M68 red dot CCO and the M4 has a shorter profile than the M16, which in PR counts for jack.

 

As for the uber G36 case, other German mods have only used the 3.5 or whatever sight, but to be fair this is a realism mod. However, the more I look at it, it's entirely similar to brits vs insurgents. The british have wholey superior outfitting in PR, yet you can still put up quite a fight with the "inferior" insurgents. And maybe it's just me, but the way the sights are currently represented in PR, doesn't give red dots much of an advantage over irons, the point of fire is still the same, just a little more obstructed. But like I said maybe that's just me. 3D sights would change that dramatically however and in that case red dot's might be quite overbalancing. This is all speculation however, we have no idea of how they will represent the dual optics system. Can't remember the name of that popular BF2 mod, but it had German's vs Ukraine or something, and the G36 in that only used a single optic. Certainly didn't detract from it's ability, so I don't personally see any NEED to include the red dot.

 

As for the Devs stepping in, I doubt it. As far as they are concerned just like our ADF mod, it's not going to be merged with mainstream PR and will be a community run addon, so it's not their problem. Once again, I could be wrong.

 

i still steal U.S kits all the time when im mec

 

Why? The G3 kicks ass, sure the M16 is more accurate and less recoil whatever, but the G3 more then makes up for it, when i don't have to empty half a clip into one person because of the combination of low damage + hitreg.

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yeaaa booooy.

...However, the more I look at it, it's entirely similar to brits vs insurgents. The british have wholey superior outfitting in PR, yet you can still put up quite a fight with the "inferior" insurgents...

 

As for the Devs stepping in, I doubt it. As far as they are concerned just like our ADF mod, it's not going to be merged with mainstream PR and will be a community run addon, so it's not their problem. Once again, I could be wrong...

 

...The G3 kicks ass, sure the M16 is more accurate and less recoil whatever, but the G3 more then makes up for it, when i don't have to empty half a clip into one person because of the combination of low damage + hitreg.

The brit vs insurgent/militia is a different story as all the insurgent/militia maps are forest or urban maps and hence the scopes aren't that useful. And that's not really the point I am getting at.

 

What happens when the MEC fight the Germans in the desert? If every German kit has a G36 with all the gucci sights I can't see how that wouldn't be OP. It's not really the rifle that is OP IMO but that they (according to the above post) said "every kit" will have the gucci G36?

 

AFAIK the community mods are made with the express purpose of being absorbed into PR as a whole. I don't think the DEVs allow 3rd party addons and modifications that aren't endorsed by them.

 

And yes if you can't see that the stopping power of the G3 easily makes up for its higher recoil and smaller magazine then you really need to pay closer attention.

 

Sure you may prefer the M16 for its ease of use but I can't see how anyone can say the G3 is a bad gun, it's just different and that is the spice of life :)

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Well there's no way *every kit* will have the g36. I mean one of the kits has a LMG, another one has a rocket launcher, etc :p

Riflemen,Engineer,AA,HAT,LAT,Officer, Grenadier all have the same primary weapon in majority of fractions, therefore its good to assume from whats been said the Germans will have G36s for all those kits.

 

thats 7 out of what 10 kits possible of picking up a G36.

 

i always steal US weapons, accuracy over firepower anyday, sure if u hit a guy with a g3 he'll probaly drop quicker...but thats if u hit him, m16 aim fire, maybe an extra bullet or two but the target is sure to drop.

 

either way i look forward to seeing these new fractions in-game.

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So are the ADF and the German forces going into PR or is it gonna be an entirely different mod?

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So are the ADF and the German forces going into PR or is it gonna be an entirely different mod?

 

I don't think anyone is really sure right now Shadow... I believe the hope is that eventually they'll be integrated when they're polished enough, but at the moment they'll be an addon... like the training mode.

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Oh ok....

Lame

 

Not lame at all, think about it. If they included every faction currently in progress, the final packaging would amount to 10-15 gigs worth of crap. Not happy Jan.

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yeaaa booooy.

So, every Australian player must download the ADF mod or they will be kicked from the server for lack of content.

 

I like it. It will keep the foreigners out. ;)

 

P.S. Those German models have sweet faces. Like the boy next door, armed and dangerous. Grrr.

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Correct me if I am wrong but IIRC Op Archer was specifically designed for the Canadian forces mod is it not?

 

Therefore I would assume that once the Canadian mod is done it will be integrated into PR and Archer will be a Canadian vs Insurgent map would it not?

 

That is what I heard anyway. And the in game loading description for archer backs it up saying that it is a face off between Insurgent and Canadian forces.

Nah, guys they will be intergated in the main PR install, the core install that is, their maps will be in the maps install.

 

You got this officially from the devs?

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